Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Fwd: [bangla-vision] Dear Prathiba



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From: ayub mohammed <mdayyub@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [bangla-vision] Dear Prathiba
To: bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com


 

I guess your knowledge is beyond the interpretation of the history of the Moses. If I ask you about your thoughts are even beyond the origin of the apes and humanoids in central African region. I guess you think that the humans were the first and the gods were the next to the history of the development of the man in the world. If I am correct, you see these religions are nothing like a containers of the beliefs of the people, irrespective of all religions in the world and founded by the humans only. So that, what I think, about you I have told here. So no contradiction with you would make u more perfect than what you are now. I guess you r in search of the things what you need to get to this world through your mind that is very thirsty in finding the task you already set in your mind as your goal. All these only like to say you that u are the ANCIENT warrior, and wanted to be known as LARA.Ayub Mohammed

--- On Mon, 13/9/10, Lara Ancientwarrior67777 <ancientwarrior67777@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Lara Ancientwarrior67777 <ancientwarrior67777@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [bangla-vision] Dear Prathiba
To: bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 13 September, 2010, 11:57 PM

 
Dear Prathiba
 
My responds are in blue
 
Am I tried to convert you? I expressed my view on 'paganism'. And it was my duty, when you declare to me that you are a pagan. It is an explanation or my view point. I do believe in the "Right to Choose". And also I believe in the Right to Express"
 
 
Well  dont get mad when others who also has the right too express about  the three mono traditions, which has a history of creating and causing wars, because the  extermists leaders believe it justifies  too do this.You say you express your  " opinion on Paganism", for one you have no clue.. There is  a large region of many religion and traditions who is under paganism.. Do you have any clue which one I am under? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
Now you says 'you believe in your own supreme being as God'. And you says 'you believe in Mother Earth'. And you add 'you believe in all positive and negative natural forces'
 
I respect you and your beliefs. 
 
You says ;you are not disrespect me or my beliefs.
 
 I am not disrespectingyour belief, you are just not understanding what I am talking about.
oh my gosh  give me a freaking break..  I guess you  support extermists ? people who makes  all three holy books of three religions who has been at war based on whose god is better? God is one with all religion  it doesnt matter, but  when extermists of three mono traditions fight too prove,which one is better this is totally EVIL. nothing positive about this.Plus The three holy books and their stories which is connected too old testament all came from the Egyptian holy books, the higharchies  changed the names, but  truthfully the extermsits uses those stories to justified the reason they create and fight wars.
 
 
Now in a small message you posted : 'Listen Prathiba' not as I addressed 'Dear Lara'
 
 Dear Prathiba...
 
'I think for myself'' you wrote. But as a social animal you have to 'think for the whole society' 
 
 See you dont understand this part and picking and choicing which paragraph  you like to discuss  is the same as someone picking and choosing  which verses they love too read in the holy books,  you dont get the whole picture when you are breaking the whole story apart.
 
I am saying " I think for myself" meaning I know what I Lara needs too see and think and feel.. do  you know me  enough to think for me ? no , so therefore I think for myself in the descion I make in MY life.
 

'no one can ever change my mind' you wrote. it is prejudice and over confident. Both are negative.
 
How is it prejudice and over confident. Both are negative?  When I was speaking  that No one can change my mind, about certain situation in my life. meaning I have common sense too once again THINK FOR MY SELF...  Meaning : That I dont believe in one side of a story, i have too read and analysis  and make my desion on what I am being told, where as  some people in USA and the world  believes everything  their leaders tell them . They blindly  follow  without thinking if its the truth. I do not do this and why because I am not a Follower..  Do you understand?
 
'Book written by Man to control minds' you wrote. Yes, it is the Guide to lead the life and it is for mankind. But it is impossible to write by a Man, whoever he/she is! It is divine. You can't hurt the beliefs of others. You says one and act another. Am I right dear Lara?
 
Yeah a guide for ppl too personal guide them  their spirit too the directions that spirit needs, but some of the books are  re - written by men whose main goal is too control ppl minds, feelings, judgements and common sense. Have you not notice some of the extermsists in all three mono traditions had been able too make people do some crazy things?  And make sure people are living in fear ? because the sky is falling  or the end of world is coming ... this is a form of mind control.
 
 
'Religions are extremism' Your comment. But if Moses, Jesus and Mohammed (pbuALL) was not here, the conditions of the present humanity will be .............You please think and fill it.
 
 Are you an extermists in your religion tradition ? If not  then this sentence you are trying too quote has nothing too do with you.. you really should not take things so personally. The condition of present humanity would be different why ? becaue no one would live in FEAR  of the supreme being. People would be connected to the universe and too each other spiritually where as now the three  mono religion traditions are at war all the time its harming those who has nothingto do with this  which are the plants, animals and the innocents. Animals and plants doesnt need  Jesus , Moses or Mohammed (pbuALL). Do you see warriors of elephants waging war against the tigers because they want the tigers too believe in their supereme God  rules ? NO you dont see this.. so why are  humans acting like this.
 
 
In my belief we dont  do that, all gods and goddess are there too help us bring peace n harmony and freedom. Our gods and goddess doesnt want us too be at war or killing innocent people  based on FEAR. We are connected to the universe and mother earth and our own spiritual self. We are not separated from our creators, where the three mono religions are separated , if they were not separated from their supreme being why on earth are we fighting wars? Why does the extermists of christianity  loves too tell others "  you  will go to hell if nonbelievers dont bow down too their God?  This is the same in the other two mono religion beliefs.  Why does people needs to live in fear with a God they have never seen with their eye ? If  God is the father of all , why would the father  kill his children? most parents who love their kids wouldnt.
Do you understand?
 
I am not asking you anything. But when you have misconceptions and misinformations, I have to respond. Sorry, if you have hurted, dear Lara.
 
 LOL  you think i am hurt ?  lol  nope...  you have your opinions and that is all it is.  You have also misconceptions and misinformations about  what a pagan believes, you seems too have thought some pagans doesnt have a creator... your words showed this in the  post below ...
 
I do belive you are human being with all the good mind and brain. And you have the right to choose and you will choose the right one.
 
Thank you , you also have the right too your own choosing  as well , like I said I repect your belief, what I do in the internet I try too tell others who hate islam, that most of the stuff  they have heard  from their pastors and the news  are  not true and they need to judge their own holy book before judging the Quran.
 
You have a blessed day  and I hope oneday  we all can live in peace in a world we all call Home.
 
 peace be upon you
 
 Lara
 
 



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